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	<title>Comments on: License quibbles (aka Hiro &amp; linux pt 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Nunya-Biz</title>
		<link>http://noisymime.org/blog/2009/02/license-quibbles-aka-hiro-linux-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23342</link>
		<dc:creator>Nunya-Biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything further with regards to just dumping the raw and clean xvid frames into a new file - instead of actually recoding each frame with x264?

And as a side note, how do I use QuickTime/QuickTime Pro to just play each file in its more desirable filtered state &#039;straight-up&#039; - without needing to &#039;pre-prepare&#039; each file, by first combing through it frame-by-frame...

Nevertheless, still impressed outright - with your nous&#039;n insight,
(Keep me updated with any &#039;need&#039; that you may have for that first one hundred of mine as well...)

Regards,

J-L

(c:=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything further with regards to just dumping the raw and clean xvid frames into a new file &#8211; instead of actually recoding each frame with x264?</p>
<p>And as a side note, how do I use QuickTime/QuickTime Pro to just play each file in its more desirable filtered state &#8216;straight-up&#8217; &#8211; without needing to &#8216;pre-prepare&#8217; each file, by first combing through it frame-by-frame&#8230;</p>
<p>Nevertheless, still impressed outright &#8211; with your nous&#8217;n insight,<br />
(Keep me updated with any &#8216;need&#8217; that you may have for that first one hundred of mine as well&#8230;)</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>J-L</p>
<p>(c:=</p>
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		<title>By: noisymime</title>
		<link>http://noisymime.org/blog/2009/02/license-quibbles-aka-hiro-linux-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23284</link>
		<dc:creator>noisymime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nunya-Biz

Thanks for the support!

I&#039;ve been meaning to play with this again but just haven&#039;t had the time lately (Beyond weekly downloads/transcodes of Underbelly that is). To answer your query, there is almost certainly a way to have the filtered content sent straight to screen, however I don&#039;t really understand the point. If you just want to watch the file, you can do it through Quicktime directly on a mac. The problem I have is that my HTPC is linux based and that&#039;s where I want to watch the files, hence the need to convert them to a file.

QuickTime-Pro&#039;s &#039;Save As&#039; option is almost certainly quicker as it uses all the HW acceleration in OSX. That said though, I&#039;m certain there is a way to dump the frames as filtered xvid rather than recoding with x264 as its this recoding that makes it so slow. I&#039;ll try and have a play with it this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nunya-Biz</p>
<p>Thanks for the support!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to play with this again but just haven&#8217;t had the time lately (Beyond weekly downloads/transcodes of Underbelly that is). To answer your query, there is almost certainly a way to have the filtered content sent straight to screen, however I don&#8217;t really understand the point. If you just want to watch the file, you can do it through Quicktime directly on a mac. The problem I have is that my HTPC is linux based and that&#8217;s where I want to watch the files, hence the need to convert them to a file.</p>
<p>QuickTime-Pro&#8217;s &#8216;Save As&#8217; option is almost certainly quicker as it uses all the HW acceleration in OSX. That said though, I&#8217;m certain there is a way to dump the frames as filtered xvid rather than recoding with x264 as its this recoding that makes it so slow. I&#8217;ll try and have a play with it this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Nunya-Biz</title>
		<link>http://noisymime.org/blog/2009/02/license-quibbles-aka-hiro-linux-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23283</link>
		<dc:creator>Nunya-Biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First-and-Foremost, well done.

I too cannot believe the gaul of Hiro-Media&#039;s Pot?-Kettle?-Black? indignant protest of a response to your endeavors so far.

I can&#039;t help but feel that their response has been motivated by the now-shaky ground they now-stand-on, by having to now-face-the-raw-legal-power of a quite likely pissed-off Channel Nine.

You can&#039;t &#039;defend&#039; a now-it&#039;s-got-holes-in-it pseudo-DRM Player to a Media Conglomerate, especially after you told them - and then billed them - for a system you touted as &#039;bulletproof&#039;.

(It seems as though the Hiro-Media Player is about as bulletproof as each of the dead characters portrayed within &#039;Underbelly&#039; - the Series this Media Player is supposed to protect...)

I too will be watching with great interest at how this little gaff unfolds - and make no mistake, if any of these retards attempts to take a legal swing at you - I&#039;ll be the first to kick a hundred dollars towards you standing up for what is true, fair and just, (which is what GPL is all about anyway...)


Second, I&#039;m curious if there is actually a need to have ffmpegX carry out any of this transcoding to begin with.

Is it possible to just use the Hiro-Media&#039;s installed Quicktime component to just allow the file to be played while being &#039;filtered&#039; in real-time?

If I have a Mac &#039;fast enough&#039;, could I have the file &#039;dumped to screen&#039; frame by frame, instead of into a file?

Or, as you mentioned previously about using QuickTime-Pro&#039;s &#039;Save as Movie&#039; option, would this result in a &#039;quicker&#039; outcome from a time-wise perspective instead?

Again, well done my son - and keep at&#039;em...

Regards,

J-L
(c:=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First-and-Foremost, well done.</p>
<p>I too cannot believe the gaul of Hiro-Media&#8217;s Pot?-Kettle?-Black? indignant protest of a response to your endeavors so far.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but feel that their response has been motivated by the now-shaky ground they now-stand-on, by having to now-face-the-raw-legal-power of a quite likely pissed-off Channel Nine.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t &#8216;defend&#8217; a now-it&#8217;s-got-holes-in-it pseudo-DRM Player to a Media Conglomerate, especially after you told them &#8211; and then billed them &#8211; for a system you touted as &#8216;bulletproof&#8217;.</p>
<p>(It seems as though the Hiro-Media Player is about as bulletproof as each of the dead characters portrayed within &#8216;Underbelly&#8217; &#8211; the Series this Media Player is supposed to protect&#8230;)</p>
<p>I too will be watching with great interest at how this little gaff unfolds &#8211; and make no mistake, if any of these retards attempts to take a legal swing at you &#8211; I&#8217;ll be the first to kick a hundred dollars towards you standing up for what is true, fair and just, (which is what GPL is all about anyway&#8230;)</p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;m curious if there is actually a need to have ffmpegX carry out any of this transcoding to begin with.</p>
<p>Is it possible to just use the Hiro-Media&#8217;s installed Quicktime component to just allow the file to be played while being &#8216;filtered&#8217; in real-time?</p>
<p>If I have a Mac &#8216;fast enough&#8217;, could I have the file &#8216;dumped to screen&#8217; frame by frame, instead of into a file?</p>
<p>Or, as you mentioned previously about using QuickTime-Pro&#8217;s &#8216;Save as Movie&#8217; option, would this result in a &#8216;quicker&#8217; outcome from a time-wise perspective instead?</p>
<p>Again, well done my son &#8211; and keep at&#8217;em&#8230;</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>J-L<br />
(c:=</p>
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		<title>By: Deane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a longtime free software and Linux user in particular, I&#039;ll be very interested to see how this one pans out, please do keep as much info as you can about this online.

I agree with what you say, firstly it seems that you have done nothing wrong, nor broken any agreements or licences in your actions, though it certainly might seem like they have, at least at this point in the communications you&#039;ve posted.

I&#039;m watching this one with keen interest.

Between the issues with the Underbelly file pointed to in the howto thread comment, actual huge size of the files themselves, thinly veiled threat from Hiro (I&#039;ll call it that if you won&#039;t), and complete lack of any sort of answer to my email to Ninemsn customer service on why I can&#039;t view the file, it makes me wish I had have just pirated it from a torrent site in the first place and not bothered trying to support what Ch9 are doing.

At least Ch10 and ABC seem to have their online content well sorted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a longtime free software and Linux user in particular, I&#8217;ll be very interested to see how this one pans out, please do keep as much info as you can about this online.</p>
<p>I agree with what you say, firstly it seems that you have done nothing wrong, nor broken any agreements or licences in your actions, though it certainly might seem like they have, at least at this point in the communications you&#8217;ve posted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m watching this one with keen interest.</p>
<p>Between the issues with the Underbelly file pointed to in the howto thread comment, actual huge size of the files themselves, thinly veiled threat from Hiro (I&#8217;ll call it that if you won&#8217;t), and complete lack of any sort of answer to my email to Ninemsn customer service on why I can&#8217;t view the file, it makes me wish I had have just pirated it from a torrent site in the first place and not bothered trying to support what Ch9 are doing.</p>
<p>At least Ch10 and ABC seem to have their online content well sorted!</p>
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